This is the first edited episode of my conversations with Zummi over the weekend November 23-4. I traveled to see him and it was one of the most transformative experiences of my life, not because I consider Zummi my mentor exactly, but because in him I felt as though I could stop seeing myself in the “Elephant in the Forest,” who suffers in solitude. We really got along and learned a lot from each other, and the companionship and compelling thinking and joyous laughing we did together gave me a lot of energy. I hope our conversation is educational and encouraging to listen to.
In this episode, we introduce the main theme of our conversations: how language itself is a factor in social life which is usually unheeded. We don’t think enough about the advent of language and the alphabet, and how the beginning of linguistic tool-making are the basis for our computerized utopia/dystopia. In the middle there is a jam we did together.